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Message posted by Davey on February-25-2010 at 01:36 - IP Logged
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I recently purchased a 3 pack of Partagas Serie D, No. 4 tubos. While I was impressed with how quickly they showed up, I have developed a concern regarding their Cuban authenticity. The information from the Habanos stamp can be verified on the Habanos website (http://www.habanos.com/Sellos/Info/VerificaSelloCajon), and when I entered the information from these cigars the website reported them as "Non registered code for Habanos S.A. Illegal product". I will continue to research the legitimacy of their verification website, but I would also like to request some further confirmation of authenticity from you as well. Is there any proof you can provide regarding the Cuban authenticity of these cigars? Thanks for entertaining my concerns.

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Hi Davey, the tubos do not register on the habanos website even though the numbers and bar codes are on the side.  The only numbers that will show up will be numbers from boxes with the new tamper resistant warranty seal with bar code and hologram.

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I think you shouldn't worry about the authentisity. I ordered for several times from MCC and have never been disappointed.

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Hello Davey,

The smaller seal that is applied in Carton Packs has no barcode that can be verified on Habanos website:



Besides, these codes were only introduced in 2009, thus you won't find them on boxes from older stock.

The major identifying symbols for small packs are:

- the Habanos seal, typically affixed to the top right-hand corner

- Warranty Seal (like the one on the image)

- the words "HECHO EN CUBA" enclosed in an oval and "Totalmente a mano" in italics like here:



And of course cigar taste is the best proof of authenticity!


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I wonder why boxes I have received from MCC over the last three months (Monte #4, Bolivar Petit Belicoso limitada 09) arrived with the barcode and the hologram clearly cut out with an exacto knife. A box of Monte #2 had the hologram still on  one end, but the barcode on the other end was cut out.

The sticker goo remains, making me wonder what is the point of removing the barcodes from these boxes. Because of this strange habit I have not been able to verify any box's authenticity.

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The barcode and hologram on my box of Monte #4's was cut also. I'm confident they are authentic. It did catch my attention though, wasn't sure why they did that.

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Strange, curious to hear why these barcodes and holograms have been removed

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FWIW many distributors do that when shipping.  I've read posts from people all over the world that have had that done.  Not entirely sure the reason though.  One theory is that it is to prevent resale.

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That is done for security reasons.
Fortunatly there are many other ways to check authenticity. The most efficient way is actually smoking a cigar


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Actually "smoking a cigar" is not a good way to tell a genuine from a counterfeit. From flavor, color, rolling technique and the cap you can only tell a cuban cigar from a non-cuban cigar.

It is not necessarily by smoking it alone that you can tell a genuine, say, Cohiba cigar from a counterfeit Cohiba. Particularly as cuban fakes are actually rolled out of cuba itself so the cigar looks good, tastes right, smokes ok: it's made in Cuba with Cuban tobacco but it's not necessarily a genuine Cohiba.

Those counterfeits often have original bands and come in original boxes too. Why else would Habanos SA go through such great lenghts as to serialize and register their products? Because there are tons of fraudolent products that are so close to the genuines that smoking one, looking at its band, or its box, is just not enough any more.

I would really like to know what those security reasons are. What is more important than guaranteeing the product?


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My guess...  If the boxes that come into the US are confiscated, and that code is on there, US Customs could track it back to the vendor.  Not that US laws hold in other countries, but there are ways that their businesses could be negatively impacted regardless.

Again, just my thoughts.

FWIW, I've only ever seen a couple fakes that were even close to the real thing.  In my experience, most of the time they don't taste right, even if they are rolled in Cuba.  My favorite reference on the topic is temporarily unavailable as they are moving their site, but I will post a link if I can find a good alternative.



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